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1. June 5th 2008 @ 23:19. tlcorbin Says:
Odd about the Andrea Yates story, I hated her but relented when her history came out and I remembered (more like relived) the post natal stress my mother went through Jo. She became the unrealized poster child of serial killer wanna be's...it ended up that I understand and empathized with her situation, but never the crime.

Have I explored the taboo, the forbidden, the dark side or worse, one word: yup.

Have I explored those things in writing, somewhat.

Would I like to explore more sure, sure.

My major deterrent, fear: I'll succumb to it's lure.

Raven
2. June 6th 2008 @ 01:10. Joanne Fedler Says:
Very thoughtful comments Raven. As you so beautifully put it, one can empathize with the person, never the crime. That's what I discovered when I wrote about it - that the two were not incompatible, I found my response was more nuanced than I had expected.

I hear what you say about succumbing to the lure, but I believe that writing something out, does just that, it helps to get it out. What happens if we don't ever express our deepest darkest desires - where do they go? Do they someday just explode out of us like all our repressions, bullied into submission by 'respectable' social norms? I don't know, but I am fascinated by this stuff. I think denial and repression are far more dangerous than self-expression. Expressing a desire is a place of self-discovery. If one needs 'help' if that desire is really unhealthy and a danger to others, then I believe by writing about it, we can make those choices.

Jo


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3. June 6th 2008 @ 02:28. Louie Says:
Very interesting, I admire you for researching something before judging, very few people ever really do that.

cheers

Louie.

P.S. Should get time to try buy a copy of your book this arvo. Nice long weekend to give it a good read. hope its selling well.


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4. June 7th 2008 @ 16:17. Morgan Bell Says:
i remember studying Medea at uni and the women who had their own children found it pretty hard going, so investigating a story like Andrea Yates as a new mum must have taken alot of courage!

i saw Oprah interviewing David Crespi who murdered his children, claiming psychosis/depression and i didnt feel any empathy at all, i dont know if it was just the format it was presented in but i couldnt relate to him at all

5. June 7th 2008 @ 16:58. tlcorbin Says:
A gender issue perhaps Morgan? No snarkiness intended. Men aren't known for their nurturing qualities and aren't prone to the chemical disorders that women experience that can literally make them crazy for a time.

The very chemicals that are produced to get them emotionally through child birthing and child rearing can at times turn on them: that man won't ever experience the malady. So, no mutual grounds for empathy.

Raven


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6. June 7th 2008 @ 17:25. Morgan Bell Says:
no actually Raven you are probably right, i was going to say that but i didnt want it to come across as sexist . . . i think it is easier to empathise with your own gender definately . . . and as someone who has suffered from depression i found that using it as the sole cause for murdering multiple children (who thought they were playing hide and seek) just didnt wash with me . . . im open to someone trying to explain it to me but the particular Oprah interview i saw just made him seem cold
7. June 7th 2008 @ 17:40. tlcorbin Says:
For the record Morgan, his story doesn't resonate with me at all.


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8. June 7th 2008 @ 17:45. Morgan Bell Says:
yeah and it may sound awful but i think because he had the presence of mind not to also kill himself that it just set him apart from so many other cases of severe depression
9. June 7th 2008 @ 17:53. tlcorbin Says:
agreed, if he'd have attempted to commit suicide at the time of the incident, I would have had a modicum more empathy. But he didn't and neither did I.

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